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I responded to a listing on PadMapper for a rental in Toronto, and after some research and going through Reddit, I've now become aware that this listing is part of a scam where people ask to go through a third-party site for "protection" (usually reputable such as Air BnB/Roomorama), claiming that they will leave a rental agreement in a mailbox with instructions as to how to release payment, when in reality, those 3rd party sites have nothing to do with the process, and you are releasing payment directly to the scammer.

Below are the communications copy/pasted so that anyone can see the kind of language that is used (although in the instances I came across on reddit, the address varied, as well as the 3rd party site).

Response 1 (from [email protected] , but the signature was David George)

Hello,

The apartment at 783 Bathurst Street, Toronto, ON M5S 1Z5 is still

available. Everything is just like in the pictures fully equipped with

all the appliances you need, very clean and well kept. The apartment

can be rented furnished or if you want you can use your furniture and

deposit mine in the storage unit. I work as civil engineer and the

company I work for has developed projects all around the world. They

moved me to the United Kingdom department because they have a new

project there. The apartment is vacant so you can move-in anytime you

want.

The rent of 1250$/month is for the whole apartment and includes all

the utilities: heat, water, electricity, parking, laundry in-suite,

washer and dryer also included, cable and internet. You will have full

access to all building amenities. Just in case repairs are needed

there I will cover the costs no worries.

I would like to know how many people will live in the apartment and

also which rental contract do you prefer to start with - 6 months or 1

year with option of renewal. The price I'm asking is below the market

because I want to find a responsible tenant to take good care of the

place. The monthly payments can be wired to my Bank Account (TD Bank)

or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us.

I'm the owner of the apartment, it's already paid in full and no

mortgage on it. Schools and groceries near-by. You have everything you

need near-by because it's one of the best neighborhood. Pets are

allowed. You'll love it for sure!

I need to know if you are really interested in the place so we can

discuss further.

Thank you and look forward hearing from you!

David

I then responded saying that I was interested, and asked when would be convenient to see it in person, to which they replied (from a new email: [email protected])

Hello,

Like I said in my previous email, the company I work for moved me to United Kingdom, and unfortunately there is a problem showing you the apartment, because I already left Canada. The reason I haven't managed to rent the apartment before I had to leave for United Kingdom is that someone said that will rent the apartment and haven't managed to keep the promise. I waited for him, but unfortunately he didn't managed to get the money on time, so the transaction failed and I had to leave before managing to rent it. Obviously this brought me huge inconvenience. So I can tell that I have a bitter experience making reservation, it's the first time I'm renting an apartment so I prefer using an worldwide property management company.

The company I am talking about is called Roomorama (www.roomorama.com) their website is main focused on short term rentals, but they also have an new service for long term rentals. I used this company last month when I rented my apartment in London, United Kingdom, and I can tell you that it was an great experience and the only way I will proceed renting my apartment is by using them.

We use this company to protect the both of us. They will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package (keys and paperwork).

Using Roomorama involves three parties: me as owner, you as a potential tenant and Roomorama as a responsible third party authorized to handle this transaction. Roomorama works the same way as the escrow account on which you place the deposit when you rent an apartment, except that instead of a bank, we use Roomorama. Of course, nobody can take that money until you will sign the lease agreement. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment.

Like I said before I used them to rent my apartment in London and everything was perfect they are really professional and they have great services.

My phone number is +442033182641. You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish and I will respond ASAP.

Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction. You need to know everything about this process before we get this started.

Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!

David

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