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£750 per month 'Millionaire Witch' scam
As usual she's preying on the vulnerable; any genuine woman looking to improve their business and make more money would go nowhere near this absolute charlatan.
Be aware - NBC scam
She has no actual talent other than to know how to lock people into a binding agreement very early on, as well as asking them to submit positive reviews whilst she's still in the 'lovebombing' stage. As soon as they realise they're being taken for a ride it's too late and that's when the legal threats start.
Save your money, save your sanity and stay well away from her.
Crazy
She's also apparently very good at deleting negative commentary from Google. I bet she's conned hundreds of women.
Complete con artist, should be prosecuted for fraud!
I've been talking to a friend of mine the other day, who - just like me, paid Michelle in the past for her service and not only have we had a bad awakening, like so many others but also could we not help but wonder if all that she says makes any sense to anyone!?! like, are people actually questioning?!?!? more people should be shown reviews of her such as the ones here...
like, her numbers and statements ARE NOT adding up. even the viewers on her livestreams are bought hahahah 500 people watching - and only 102 comments?! ahm, nope.
what happened to that one apartment in Spain, all those Aibnbs, the house in Wales that "they" apparently bought... Then there are the different companies in Gibraltar, the UK, Portugal, its shocking how much some people get away.
but hey aslong as you keep people coming into your pipeline, there will always be enough who don't know the story of Michelle Stonhill yet and pay her stupid money for hot air. sad really!
Michelle has a new scam for 2023
And now she is at it again
“Students” pay £39 a month for coaching for their new or small business. This usually means many of the customers are ensnared in MLM and already being misled. They have started paying for a “new term” starting in September 2022. Many others are not really businesses at all, some are “coaches” themselves. Many are clearly vulnerable. I saw one lady signing up because she has no money and is dealing with chemo and has been sold this scam as her route out of financial hardship.
One thing Emma and Michelle are emphasising is that there is no contract and people can cancel any time. However, in their T&Cs there is a clause that says to sign up you must be registered as a business. I’m pretty sure this is to avoid consumer protection obligations; the right to cancel and to a refund. They are NOT drawing individuals’ attention to this. There are other elements in the T&Cs which are dodgy and likely to be unenforceable but that doesn’t mean they won’t go after people aggressively as in the past.
They are calling this latest scam “educational” and using educational like terms. The term “university” is actually protected. This has lead to their Instagram being reported and taken down but they are still picking up unaware victims on Facebook.
It’s really shocking to me that someone can repeat the same or similar scam over and over and get away with it.
Please share your experiences far and wide. She seems to have moved on to scam more vulnerable people than she has done in the past. These people need to know about the experiences here because many of them will be in very serious trouble if they are sucked in.
Scammer's address 8 Headland Close Sovereign Place West Kirby 117 Main Street Wirral - United Kingdom Gibraltar - Spain CH48 3JP GX11 1AA
Scammer's email [email protected]
Country United Kingdom
Type of a scam Investment
Initial means of contact Social media (e.g., Facebook)
Your very own Fox tv interview in America to use as a trust stamp / mark in your own marketing, boost your business, and establish yourself as the expert in your field.
That is the juicy carrot that Michelle Stonhill, maiden name Michelle Reeves, ( known from the Women’s Wealth Accelerator Program / Wealth Accelerator Mentorship / That Retreat Place / The Move In With Your Mentor Retreats / The Fierce Faith Movement / The Millionaire Mentorship / The $ix Figure $print ) dangled in front of my nose and the nose of about 30+ other women (that I know of personally, there might be more) in January 2020.
After that she went on selling more spots to her new clients over the course of 2020 (and 2021), all while stating that it is a very "exclusive" deal”, because it is "very hard to get your foot in the door with tv". She talks about her "special contact with the studio in Florida". She claims she is the owner of an "exclusive tv segment called Women of influence tv”, where she features her coaching clients exclusively. The opportunity to use as a trust stamp / mark in your own marketing, boost your business, and establish yourself as the expert in your field.
None of the ladies who signed up so far for the deal know which part of Michelle’s story is true, if even.
Initially starting from January 2020, Michelle Stonhill invited “a select few” in for a very exclusive opportunity to get their faces and businesses on tv in the States. She asked explicitly not to share this message with anyone else. She only asked those women not to share the sales page with the tv deal on it with anyone else that was coached by her. I was one of the few ladies she was asking to participate as my “business was ready” and “not everyone else in the WAM was ready to go on tv yet”.
A sense of urgency was created, as Michelle said that “there were only a certain amount of spots available”, it was first come first serve, and she emphasized that I needed to make a decision quickly because the number of spots available in the studio for this were very limited and out of her control. I rushed into making a decision, and I, along with many other women, took the GBP 3997,- deal and paid for a what turned out to be only a 3-minute pay-to-play interview with the South West Florida Fox 4 studio (not Fox itself!) called the Morning Blend. We all found out that it wasn’t a group of “select few”, but over 30 women who had signed up for the deal! It would take 3 whole days to tape everyone’s interview. The group was that big. And we found out that more spots were sold since then.
We were supposed to get two media trainings, she and her husband James Stonhill were supposed to support all of us in the green room in the studio on the recording days, we would hold an afterparty in a gorgeous Florida mansion that she rented out for the trip and for one of the trainings. it all sounded amazing and like a dream.
But you know what people say: when it seems too good to be true, it usually is. And this unfortunately now seems to be the case.
The delivery of this deal was moved up when the global COVID-19 pandemic hit us. And the group was fine with that arrangement at that stage. We didn’t suspect anything being wrong at that time.
Part of the group did receive a training and all participants were added into a Facebook group. That group was shut down as soon as the first postponement due to Corona happened, so we were left with no material to look back on. All promises made by Michelle Stonhill in that private Facebook group, as well as all instructions, negotiations/communications with the studio, talks about the details, the studio whereabouts, the production sheets, etc. have vanished when Michelle single-handedly decided to close the group without noticing us.
Now with Michelle Stonhill being pregnant, she is trying to string the entire group along to postpone again for another year, to September 2022! This means we have to wait for 2 years. There are two more options offered. But these are in no way similar to what we paid for: we can either go alone, without training, afterparty or her present on the spot for support, or her husband there for taking pictures of the entire studio event. Or we can organize a fake “satellite recording” with the studio, which is a simple budget solution replacing the original plan. For none of these options any refund or discount options are offered. We just have no choice and are forced to choose, otherwise we loose our chance to move forward with the event. She has used the pandemic, her pregnancy, the vaccine and other (made up?) reasons to not deliver on what we have paid for.
Many of the women have tried for a refund. Michelle hides behind studio policies, comes up with different stories each time for each one of us. She forces us to choose or the agreement will be forfeited. If we didn’t choose, we were forced to go to the studio alone this year, without all the options previously offered at the time of the original booking.
Michelle’s support team member Julie (her mother!) has emailed a lot of the women in the Fox group about a goodwill gesture refund. Those of us who’ve applied for a refund got answers back in the line of “we will grant you a refund if we are able to sell your spot". Unfortunately none of us, except for one lady, have seen a single penny back. We have no clue if and when new spots are sold.
Long story short: play along, don’t make waves, you don’t get a discount (or they say they will try but just have no way of checking that they put in the effort), you can’t change your mind, or you’ll lose the possibility to go to Fox 4. And you’ll lose your money.
Everyone who has stood up to this woman of the past years (I know of 60+ women to this point) has either signed a non-disclosure agreement to be silenced or was convict before court to pay up for services non-rendered. If she feels threatened she will sue you for defamation.
Michelle works with intimidating contracts that will make your jaw drop.
My advice: don’t book this type of magic tv slots. When the time comes for you to get featured on tv, you’ll be ready. You will get opportunities to appear in the media, based on your experience, professional reputation and merit. You don’t need to pay to speed up this process.
The reputation of people who organize these opportunities is shady, to say the least.
Many people in the coaching industry warn (and have warned me) about tv opportunities like these.
- Don’t sign any contract with a coach without having a legal expert look it over first.
- Don’t get mesmerized by coaches who post about their wealth, big cars, expensive homes online.
- Don’t take statements about how much money they made in a day/week/month to be real: these might be untrue.
- Don’t take coaches for their word, and be especially cautious when they talk about them not being a fraud, but the real deal, the authentic one.
- Don’t invest in a coach with the promise that you’ll be making much money within weeks/months by working with them.
- Don’t put investments for coaching on a credit card if you don’t know where your money will come from.
- Don’t make a down-payment or get anyone to take a deposit from your credit card, because you might get hooked into a contract that you can’t get out of. Ever.
- Ask around for testimonials. Speak with people who have actually gotten results from working with specific coaches.
- Do you research. Follow the trail of testimonials of people that insert a link to their websites, so you can actually check if these are real people, and that allow you to see how they are doing. Ask for proof.
- Raving 5-star reviews online that consist of one single sentence, often written poorly, with tons of typos, are NOT credible testimonials.
So buyer beware.
Take your time to invest in yourself, your business.
But don’t do it on a whim.
Take the time to make a well thought out decision.
One can’t be too careful.
I hope my view on the matter can prevent others from making a decision they come to regret.
There are many many women that have been totally ripped off by her, these women are intelligent, ambitious, beautiful women inside and out. Do not be sucked in by her B.S. You will do better without her.
And for what it’s worth, here is mine. I paid Michelle my last £4k in the world at the start of 2021 and I joined WAM. I felt compelled to work with Michelle - like I had zero choice. Not because she did voodoo mind tricks on me but because I knew I needed her in my life. But I also knew she wasn’t God and she could “fix” me - nobody can fix anyone, right?
Working in WAN was amazing not only for the structure it gave me following the module, and some added tonnes of value and others not so much, but we’re all at different journeys. Also, sometimes I felt Michelle could cut me off during mid flow and she did, I wasn’t imagining it but THANK GOD she did too. It wasn’t coldness or disinterest, it was to interrupt my victim mentality, which truly we all exist within, that’s how our environment creates us and from that place we won’t succeed. What Michelle does is take the very thankless role of holding up a mirror and when we don’t like what we see we attack that mirror. I know this from my 20y long leadership career - we’re always a villain in somebody else’s story. It’s not comfortable and it takes courage so I’m thoroughly grateful when others are committed to playing that part FOR my growth.
So, did I earn millions? Not yet! But I did go from almost zero to, when I wanted it and according to my business model, earning two back to back months of £25k each so £50k. My next financial goal is coming up and that will be £96k (these are goals twice a year). I will achieve these using Michelle’s training and techniques and her intuitive insights she has for you when you work with her. That’s a fact. But my success is mine, not Michelle’s and that’s how she’d want to tell it too, she guided me but I have to get up and do it.
I’m now on retreat with Michelle, and in person with her is off the scale compared to online - her energy and insights are scarily accurate.
I’m not here to invalidate how anyone feels, I’m not here to tell you you’re wrong, that’s not my place or responsibility. I’m here to share my journey with Michelle and provide an alternative experience. Again for what it’s worth, Michelle is well worth the investment, in fact I felt like I’d robbed her when I paid for WAM with all the content and community I gained but again, this is just my experience along with about another 30 women I know too.
Thanks for reading my perspective and I wish you all the best in your journeys.
But worse than that, she acts in very damaging and resentful ways towards clients if they try to air their concerns. I personally watched her treat many many people very badly.
All reviews on other sites, she has been able to take down and many women have been left feeling hurt and terrified to speak up.
Michelle is a great 'front woman' but she has no substance. She is court every other week trying to get money out of people who have refused to pay her a penny more because her service is not what it promises.
There are so many tragic cases of people losing their homes, businesses and marriages and she could not care less for any of her clients.
her superpower is taking, other people trying to spread the word about her and save others from parting with huge amounts of money and turning into fantastic marketing. She can spin the whole thing and come out looking like the victim.
I lost £8000 to this woman and I am embarrassed and ashamed I didn't do my research properly. Please, please think very carefully before giving her a penny.
I honestly don't know how you sleep at night Michelle.
Country United Kingdom
Type of a scam Worthless Problem-solving Service Scam
Initial means of contact Social media (e.g., Facebook)
She is a con artist, it really is that simple.
A group of us booked what was pitched as an exclusive opportunity to appear on FOX TV along with a whole package of other goodies for the bargain price of £4,500
Our package was to include the following:
* FOX TV Appearance and all rights
* A full training course before going to prepare
* Michelle Stonhill accompanying us to Florida to hold our hand through the process
* James Stonhill taking pictures of the whole experience
* An after party at a mansion
* A post production training session the following day to prepare for using our TV coverage for marketing
What we got?
Errrrrr that will be nothing ...
This was booked back in January 2020 and to date we have nothing and Michelle point blank refuses to refund our money
Out of the kindness of her heart she has offered us 3 further options though
1: To go to FOX 4 in September 2021 - not with her attending, any photos or mansion party. This bears no resemblance of what we had originally booked
2: Defer until September 2022 - 33 months she would have been sat sunning herself in her villa in Spain (or the one in Portugal) on our money
3: To do the whole thing remotely from our own flipping living room, clearly not worth £4,500!
Which ever way you look at this, we have been scammed and have received literally nothing
And it's not a handful of us, there is a BIG group of us
If you are ever approached by this lady, run for the hills!
Just maybe not the hills in Marbella as you might bump into her ;-)
DO NOT SIGN THE AGREEMENT! IT HAS EXTORTIONATE TERMINATION FEES ON IT - SEE HER WEBSITE FOR THE AMOUNTS ie 100% of the £9k course if cancelled less than 7 days before starting it - you’ll have had NOTHING but she is currently taking one lady to court for £7k because she saw bad reviews and backed out less than a week before the start date.
Michelle’s pursuit of every penny she thinks she’s owed is relentless and mercenary.
I didn’t know all of that at the start though as she gets you so
buoyed up with your discovery call and does you a ‘favour’ of letting you pay for the deposit in instalments that you read everything from a good place and then you’re tied into such tight legals that you can’t get out of them.
BUYER BEWARE - The fees are detailed on her website - NOT in the agreement!
I’m now the not-so-proud owner of a £12600 bill because I refused to pay the latter £7500 of the £9000 program as it ground my business to a halt, not grew it as promised.
With the legals and enforcement agency charges - the ‘privilege’ of having bailiffs knocking at my door has increased that bill to what it now is.
Re the actual program once joining - I was massively misled into what I’d receive, and the course is not remotely fit for purpose.
Please bear in mind I was actively looking for a marketing program, and prior to registering, I was told:
- I’d be coached on what offer to create, how to position it, and how to work out your niche.
- I’d be shown how to grow my income to a 10k income within 3 months - I had experience, I just needed to learn marketing mechanisms so this seemed totally feasible.
- I’d have a year of 121 mentorship with Michelle.
- I’d have 24/7 access to a mindset coach as we all know the new devils that come out as you up-level, and I was impressed by this level of thought.
- I’d have tech support from a tech team to help with all of the funnels etc I’d need to create to market my new products - this was a large factor in my decision as tech can eat up hours in a solo business.
- I’d have an Insta and Facebook expert to help me grow the social media following I’d need to market myself with.
- I’d have a 7 steps to 7 figures program and be shown the exact ways that Michelle made 60k in 5 weeks - I thought that as she’d apparently done this, it was all commonplace for her.
Before I tell you what I actually got, I’d like to share that I tried to cancel joining because my teenage daughter developed a heart condition and we were at the hospital multiple times per week with heart pains and palpitations resulting in chronic anxiety attacks and my son was struggling hugely at school so I needed to home school him - I’m a solo parent so it was all too much.
I asked to cancel just before joining, which was just after the first lockdown and my income crashed overnight.
I told them I wasn’t sure where my next income was coming from, I was on reduced hours to care for my kids current health issues and I was worried about supporting my kids on my own, and if I made the payment to join, I’d have hardly any money in my account -
THEY TOOK THE £450 AS A TERMINATION FEE AND CANCELLED MY OPTION TO JOIN.
It was only because I’d clearly worded the instruction to take the payment as access, that I insisted they granted access as I couldn’t afford to pay that money for nothing, and that I’d make the program work somehow and they then granted me access.
Once inside, you actually get:
- 2 x 121 mentorship calls with Michelle across the whole year - and they said the first one was at roughly the 8 week point - I was hardly going to get to 10k in 3 months if I don’t even get to speak to her until month 2 so I pushed for this and it was arranged for week 4ish.
- The guidance on your offer, niche, products wasn’t on offer, I was told once inside that I’d have to decide on my own offer, Michelle will just guide you on how to market it.
- On that note, Michelle didn’t know how to help me market my offer. It was a free parenting magazine, and she suggested I promote the fact that I have a primed audience that they can advertise to, instead of them having to hustle on social media all of the time - the exact thing I’d already been doing for 6 years! She also told me to market it using a webinar funnel - the program doesn’t tell you how to create a funnel, or how to create a webinar.
After a week or two of frantically trying to find out where in the program this was covered and attending the group calls so I could ask in there (and was repeatedly skipped past despite being told to use the group calls for this!) I asked the other ladies and was told that it’s not in there anywhere.
- I posted in the group asking for help as by now I was struggling hugely as the program was a hindrance and slowing me down and with the pandemic etc I needed to get this up and running. It was also a prime time because most of the country was home schooling and my mag was full of parenting resources which could help them - I NEEDED to get this out there but I wasn’t getting the help on how you build the funnels etc so I just couldn’t launch anything.
- In the end another WAM lady told me that she’d been told to use funnels too, but they’re not in the modules so to go and buy a Russell Brunson book. I also asked for help with examples of funnels and Michelle ‘kindly’ shared the link that Joe Bloggs uses to come into her pipeline - one that is free for anyone to access - not exactly £9k calibre.
- The ‘team’ of tech experts is her husband - he can only help you if you’re paying another $300 ish per month for click funnels - nothing had been mentioned about additional investment, and when I asked this so called ‘tech expert’ a question on how to do stuff in leadpages or generically, he couldn’t help saying it was only CF he could help with.
- The 24/7 mindset coach is about as present as Santa in June. I totally broke down in tears a few times (I’m not a remotely tearful person usually) but I wasn’t getting anywhere and was completely distraught by my daughters health and the need to build my business into a marketable structure, but it was impossible to make any sense of the program in terms of what I’d been told to do.
- The social media help was terrible. The modules in the program were inferior to free webinars I’ve attended, and the SM support ongoing didn’t exist. Questions posted wouldn’t be answered for days and the standard was way lower than my own knowledge which wasn’t fantastic at that point at all. Absolutely nothing tangible to work with.
I had to abandon the program and work stuff out for myself. I had far more use out of the £7 book than the entire program.
I was told by her team I’d accessed 11% of the program at that point - it was totally unusable.
£9k x 11% = £990 - I’d paid £1500 and was heavily pursued for the remaining £7.5k via legals and enforcement officers.
I’ve been in court twice with this - the first judge in his words was ‘horrified and appalled’ at the misconduct and non delivery of the program but he needed a summary in writing of further aspects he’d questioned me on.
We reconvened and I provided the info - unfortunately the second judge was more interested in the fact I wasn’t paying for a contract I’d signed, regardless of the fact it wasn’t delivering as promised.
BUYER BEWARE: This is where you’re caught out...
The contract uses the words “access to a team of technology experts”
“Access to team of Facebook
/Insta experts’ etc
The use of the word ‘access’ basically means that as long as there is a person at their end who has that TITLE (not ability) and if you can ASK for their help, it doesn’t matter if they are any good, or whether they come back to you to help.
The fact the access is provided to such a person means they can be absolutely appalling and absent, but she’s not in breach of contract.
HERE’S THE BIGGIE:
The ‘Entire Agreement’ clause towards the end stating
‘This is the entire agreement between you and us and it supersedes all other negotiations and discussions prior to its execution’
In lay terms?
That discovery call I had for an hour where she detailed everything I’d get?
The voice messages and messenger chats specifically telling me that I’d be on 10k months, that I CAN run this around home schooling my struggling son, and that they ‘heavily guide you’ on crafting your offer?
She can say whatever she wants because your lovely signature at the end of that agreement with that last clause in it basically says that as long as you get ONLY what’s detailed in the agreement, she’s not in breach.
And the agreement gives NO specifics on what you get - the discovery call does that .
What a beautiful loop of nothingness that offers.
I’m one of SCORES of women who have gone through the legal process. One lady defaulted on her £30 per month payment and was thrown back in court.
I’ve already shared the CANCELLED program lady who’s being legally pursued now for £7k for not a days access - for nothing.
Multiple women have lost their homes.
The anxiety of some women from dealing with the legals and enforcement process has been horrendous and one has even hit suicidal levels.
Be warned - this woman is one of the best sales people you’ll ever meet.
That’s a genuine statement - she’s ex network marketing and they’re taught how to attach your emotional needs and wants to what she can offer. That’s not a slur on MLM, but it’s a churning model.
Exactly the same as this.
Anyone on a discovery call with someone for an hour has an amazing picture drawn of how great this could be. Every clever detail - ‘tell me what your house would look like, what would a day look like, how would you dress/feel, where would you like take the kids on holiday etc’ she’s clever.
And then in true ‘sales pitch 101 style’ she’ll rip it away by saying ‘or you could just stay where you are now, and still be there in a years time’
Before offering you a ‘favour’ of a payment plan.
That offer, making you feel great because someone believes in you.
That offer that excites you because you’ve just seen exactly how this could all look, in technicolour detail.
That offer that if you don’t have the finances, taps into that beautiful human spirit of yours to make you think ‘I’ll find a way - it’ll be worth it!’
This is confirmation it won’t be worth it. Not even close.
This program is not designed for anyone who doesn’t have a successful business already.
If it’s a different program of hers you’re looking at, don’t be fooled - we’re already seeing the horrors of the failings of her new programs.
But it’s not obvious because anyone speaking out of line is silenced via non disclosure agreements tied into their payment arrangements.
Mine won’t be hence this post.
She targets women and there’s a high incidence of mothers who want a better life for their kids.
Check that contract.
And if you want a return on your imminent investment, hold it very firmly with both hands and tear it up.
Then be thankful you’ve just saved yourself a LOT of money, plus the lost time you'd have had while you rebuilt yourself again after this ordeal.
Like the first judge said, it’s genuinely horrific.
I purchased WAM and instantly regretted it. I thought the material was out of date, low level, badly put together and without business expertise however you are very much made to feel you are isolated in this opinion. The group calls were shocking, there were women on their crying due to their financial situation and saying they just needed to make enough money to pay their next WAM instalment.
I am not expecting money back for WAM. I signed the contract and went into (wrongly) but willingly however where it then takes a more sinister turn spaying for a FOX TV appearance that I now understand is an absolute con. I paid £4500 for this in 2020, we have received nothing for it. I understand we are in a pandemic but every coach, trip event, booking I have paid for during this period has given you the option to either take a refund or postpone. Refunds are most definitely not on the table from Michelle it's safe to say!
Be careful people this woman is scam artist.
I signed up with Michelle’s WAM program and on my discovery call was promised the world. She told me within months i could earn 10k plus but so so quickly I realised I had been scammed.
I was very honest and emailed the support team to say that I had been apart of the group two months and still not even spoken to Michelle since the very first discovery call.
The advice given was not beneficial to my business and unless you want to become a mindfulness coach just does not fit and other line of work. It was anything but 1-1 or bespoke as she claimed.
She then took me to court and escalated it to high court resulting in a high court officer visiting my home.
I offered what I possibly could given we were in a pandemic and I had no idea she would do this as I had not heard from her or her team since leaving and she refused anything but the full amount of 6k there and then or it would be enforced against my home.
I feel they just wanted money and fast to take this course of action.
I have never ever felt so low, so desperate.
I emailed Michelle and even wrote ‘ I am begging you please give me some time as I have not worked since Christmas’ but I have just been ignored.
With only 4 days before the high court officer is due back I feel absolutely at a loss and can’t believe I made such a mistake to trust and Believe this scam.
Please please save your money.
Please do not sign up to anything!
Where do I begin?
Well for a start off the Wealth Accelerator course is now only 6 months instead of a year.
The online school with voice recordings was naff.
I completed introduction sheets outlining my dream , goals etc & these were never mentioned again.
I did not feel once that it was a 5 star course. It felt more like a boot camp.
My gut instinct I completely ignored. You would only ever see the odd person declare how successful they had become once the programme came to an end for them. The rest disappeared off the face of the earth. Weekly calls were very rushed and these were on groups. Everyone was on totally different levels and what was sold as you learn from other women on the course soon became confusing & many others had financial issues.
Once on the programme I was locked into the T&C’s & there was no way out.
Week after week I knew I had made a terrible mistake.
I lost everything.
I was unable a refund of 8K & totally lost my self confidence. It was awful.
This women preys on vulnerable women.
She even admitted how she smashes sales & yes this is amazing if it wasn’t taking advantage on women.
I wish I never saw her on my news feed.
The effects she’s had on lots of others was the same. I at least didn’t feel as stupid and as if I was the only one to succumb to this.
Even now writing this is fills me with an awful feeling in my stomach.
I took out credit to finance this course. I didn’t even make it 6 nights in. I came out worse off.
I have since met others many others. It’s shocking how many.
I actually had to cut myself off from everyone because I felt so so bad.
Please do not use Michelle. Watch her videos and buy her book if you get sucked in - but that’s it.
Leave everything else at the front door!
Nikki Redmond
What this misses, Nikkiredmond, is the CHARACTER of the woman as evidenced by the many stories here.
A solid coach with a genuine desire to help her (or his) clients would not impose these fees so early in the life of a contract.
End of.
Once the information has been consumed, coaching time has been invested, team resources are used, over weeks or months...THEN there's an argument for part-payment / termination fees to cover costs incurred and some loss of anticipated earnings.
The quality & success of the programme is immaterial in this context.
We look to the Character of the individual at the helm...
...and it seems appallingly poor based on what I've read & heard, here and elsewhere.
But being ready for a program that delivers and executing the content, or trying to make a program work that doesn’t deliver the promised components are two different things.
This program is ‘potentially’ a fit for women who already have a business in place and are capable of discerning EXACTLY what they need from any program that covers scaling.
They already have the mindset, the ecosystem and the capacity to make up the immense shortfall of the program.
I have paid £1200 for two other programs and received FAR more from either of those than I did from WAM - it’s massively overpriced.
This program is NOT a fit for new or fledgling businesses and it certainly isn’t a fit for anything besides creating a high ticket offer.
During my limited time on the program, I saw 10 women struggling with NOTHING I place - three were in crippling payment plans with Michelle, despite the pandemic and personal (unavoidable) situations with their families and the compassion shown with them was non existent. I saw countless women pinballing between various offers desperately trying to create their offer because the guidance just wasn’t there.
FOUR Graduation interviews from people rolling off the program as I rolled onto it all shared that they didn’t have a single program in place from their time in WAM.
So yes - if you have the infrastructure already built, that’s Michelle’s sweet spot.
I just wish she’d stay there instead of annihilating the women and businesses she actively targets and pursues outside of that scope.
Most of the Team are “family” from what I later found out.
You send your issues to customers team who ends up being her mother & mother in law!
If that’s not a conflict of interest o don’t know what is!
Before you sign up:
1. Go check Michelle's review section on her Facebook page. She doesn't have a review section. Why?
2. Go check her content. Most of it is about a "pack of haters". Why is she talking more about her haters than about actual marketing? When I realized this I really started thinking that maybe something is off there. Because it's normal to have some haters online, but she's the only coach I know who has it as a stand alone pillar content.
3. Try to find Michelle's company name and details, as you should find any company and their details online
4. Contact the women who left her testimonials, and ask them how's the program going, and if it's working for them. Do they have any sales coming in months after joining? Or do they just have a "better mindset"? And then evaluate if you want to pay 10k for mindset or 10k to actually get your business to the next level.
Michelle and her team is blocking any person trying to say anything negative that doesn't fit Michelle's narrative.
It is extremely hard to keep negative testimonials for Michelle Stonhill's Program, as they report everyone they can.
They are accusing anyone telling their negative opinion of defamatory content, and they are bullying us via email, saying that they will take us to court if we say anything negative about the company online. I do have proof for this.
I am the least problematic person, I hate conflict, and I've been scared to speak up for months. I'm not even using my real name for this review cause I'm scared she'll sue me.
Is it normal to feel silenced like that?
Michelle does not listen to any feedback from her customers that pay her thousands of pounds, she just conveniently removes them, taking away their access to the program. And she's not refunding anything, of course. She's making that clear on her terms and conditions, and she's not kidding about it. Express one tiny bit of something that she thinks is threatening (like free thinking, or asking proof for something) and before you know it, you're out. Say goodbye to the money you paid cause you won't see it again.
Michelle is in deep trouble because all the negativity coming her way lately, and I'm sure deep down she's an amazing person. But this is what happens when one person tells you something might not be right, and you ignore. And then another one, and you ignore... a few months later, we are 160 women left completely broke and scared to speak up.
All throughout the program, you are reminded to question yourself every time you don't get the results you expected. Because if something doesn't work, it MUST be your mindset. Do you have your life together? If there is one thing that you don't have together, that's the problem, get it together. It can't possibly be the program.
This is brainwashing at its finest, and the positive testimonials that people give her during that time are the ones she uses for her promotional content. I have also sang to her tune in the beginning, right after joining, thinking that she's the Savior Herself. Typical of any cult-ish type of leadership. Does that make the gurus of those cults actually great? No. Brainwashing. Most of the women who left her great testimonials are now out of the program. This is factual information, just contact them.
One thing Michelle's team and Michelle herself need to understand really well is: having a negative opinion about what you deliver and how you deliver it, is not defamation.
Listening to it and questioning what you're doing (following your own advice, cause that's what you ask people to do) is the right way to go, because that way, you can correct anything that might indeed not be up to standard, and your program will be better, you'll have a lower dispute rate, and you won't have "a pack of haters" anymore, cause there will be nothing or very little to hate on. People really actually have better things to do than hate on you, believe it or not.
You probably spend a lot of energy and stress fighting these disputes and haters. Just make your program good, you'll be so much better off, really.
Misleading at best - fraud is more apt.
You ladies aren’t the first to fall into her trap I promise.
If you have heard of a company called forever living, Michelle used to be involved in that and this is how she got the taste for social media and squeezing as much money out of people as possible.
I worked alongside her for 3 years and it very nearly cost me my family. My husband and I were always fighting about the amount of money I had to spend and the crazy amount of work I had to do to keep her happy, if you didn’t you weren’t seen as a “leader” and “how did you expect to get anywhere with a mindset or attitude like that!?”
We were made to feel terrible if we wanted an afternoon or a Sunday with the family, it almost wasn’t worth the hassle we would get from her afterwards as she liked to “hold people accountable”
Finally most of us saw the light and threw in the towel.
She has since moved on to be a so called on line coach to women who can make 10k months happen pretty much overnight ?
I know how people get easily sucked in and fall into her trap because I’ve been there, she is extremely convincing and you want it to be true and work for you so you quickly get fooled into playing her game.
All I would say to anyone looking to work with her is please do your research and talk to these people who are writing honest (bad) reviews. We can’t all be wrong.
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I paid for the course believing Michelle would help me to up level my business and my life. I was extremely committed to the course and worked very hard.
Michelle never looked at my business, my social media, my content or my website. In fact she knew very little about me or my business. When I signed up, I signed up for 1:1 coaching and this I never got.
Michelle uses a style of coaching that I have since seen others use, which puts the blame and shame on the participants, she struggles to help problem solve and finds it difficult to adapt her methods and teachings to different business types.
The group calls were available but they were busy and I found some of the techniques used with others difficult to watch, some were blatant bullying and this didn’t encourage quieter participants to speak up.
I would strongly recommend researching thoroughly and speaking to past students before parting with your money.
There are very many upset people that I have spoken to so I know this is not just me.
I think she has totally guzumped me as she always seems so nice and possitive . She convinced me that my business would be perfect and i could really make a fortune . However i realised that she has only been using the same 3 testimonials and has added noone new for the padt 3 years.
I was also in her team for about 2 weeks in her forever living campaign but just couldnt handle the pressure and felt so nervous and worried all the time i gave up.
She does talk the talk and sounds so convincing. Ive already had a stratagy call and am so excited ... so u can imagine my disappointment reading these reviews. But thank you so much for sharing. You have probably just saved my £1000's x
In my opinion, the program which I joined the Wealth Accelerator Mentorship was the biggest waste of money and a huge, huge mistake, I personally believe I could have found exactly the same information from reading a book or looking at websites online. I won't lie when I first found Michelle Stonhill, I was felt amazed by the life portrayed and what I perceived to be promises of helping women to rapidly achieve wealth. On our first discovery call I was drawn to what I felt was Michelle's excitement to help me achieve my goals and when I first started the program I too was excited to get going. I recall on the discovery call her telling me I could achieve success quickly and that she had helped women to achieve £10k months within 4 months of joining, who wouldn't want that! During the call I feel I made it clear I was struggling financially and didn't have the full money to participate in the program, I told her I would need to speak to my husband. She responded in a way which I felt was coercion by informing me there wasn't much space left in the next intake and that I would need to act fast if I wanted it. She arranged to call me back the next day to take the next steps. In hindsight I feel throughout this call I was made to feel inadequate if I didn't step up and almost as if I didn't do this I wouldn't be successful.
I then signed what I felt was a very badly written contract, which having looked through afterwards features no company registration details, registered address or contact details other than an email address, I feel in my mind had I not felt so brainwashed I would have seen alarm bells ringing at this point. I was then enrolled in the program to start in September 2019.
When I first joined I was disappointed to find that the bespoke 1-2-1 sessions were actually only two sessions lasting 1hr, what I perceived to be a significant time apart in the program. I felt for the amount of money spent that the level of 1-2-1 support was very poor and in no way bespoke. When we had the first 1-2-1 session I felt rushed and all I was offered were four different types of people I could work with to build my online business, I expected there to be more support and advice around strategy and the practicalities of taking this forward to build and develop my actual program and the strategy to actually turn this into a business. The 2nd 1-2-1 session wasn't to be until I was ready to actually launch my business, by which time all the groundwork would have been done using what I felt was a very substandard online program, featuring audio recordings and videos which I felt were very short in length and insufficient to build an actual business, some only a few minutes in length.
I was asked for a review very early into the program, literally when i'd hardly started. I personally feel this was because they wanted to obtain this from me before I realized what I had got myself into.
One of the reasons I was attracted to the program was seeing social media posts of women currently and previously in the program, posts which I perceive to be purporting them to be successful and having made money from the program. I quickly realized many of these women who I got to know personally before, during and after leaving the program were actually flat broke, with many being worse off than before they started (I have evidence). One of the testimonials used both on her website and throughout social media features a make-up artist who works at the Versace mansion, I have since learned this woman was successful in her own right and had all these contacts prior to working with Michelle. I have since also discovered that some of the other testimonials were not factually correct or were inaccurately represented, which make me feel like I wasn't fully informed when I made the decision to join her program because many of the details I read on her website, or saw on her social media had an influence on my decision.
As I moved through the program I felt unimpressed by the weekly group calls, which a couple of times featured women crying in despair because they had no money and didn't know what to do. There were a number of times people who asked questions during the call didn't get them answered because there were too many people on the call and only an hour allocated for each one. Each morning Michelle would go through the Facebook page and leave what I felt were very basic comments to peoples questions, not exactly bespoke or strategic support. When I messaged her directly on Facebook to ask questions, I was often told to either bring the question to a group call or to ask the girls in the group, well no offense I hadn't paid to ask their advice. I also started to notice a trend of relating difficulties to mindset or fear or living in scarcity and answering questions which I perceived to clearly need practical business input to go and speak to the mindset coach - let's not even go there!
Michelle get's you to complete an accountability form each week on a Friday, on this form there is an area to raise any issues, you can actually mark the program out of ten. I never personally felt able to mark it any less than a ten, I felt if I was to do so I wouldn't be looked on favorably. I was actually told to only be positive in the group and not to bring negativity, I felt this actually prevented me from properly speaking up. After she had read the accountability forms somebody from the team contacted you to offer what I personally felt were pointless words of advice, things like "go you" "you got this" or you're on fire!". On one occasion I was under the impression I was having a conversation with Michelle, a this conversation was through her Facebook account, all of a sudden she popped up on her page in a live video, i'll never know who was actually messaging me on that day, but I wasn't receiving coaching advice from the person I'd paid!
The "tech" support was her husband and whilst I will say there were a couple of things he did indeed teach me, the vast majority of his website advice was geared to just one platform, I felt as a tech guy he should have an all-round knowledge of multiple platforms to be able to offer adequate advice. I felt the same thing applied when questioned about platforms for building sales funnels etc. The session he did around teachable featured outdated advice, this was bought to his attention. I felt for the money we were paying he should be aware of this and everything should be totally up to date.
I felt the social media/instagram coach was misleading, the coach who did the social media sessions in the group actually had no idea how to use instagram. On one occasion during a Facebook training session she had notes next to her to tell her how to do a simple task, I personally didn't understand why this was necessary for a social media & visibility strategist, surely it should be second nature?
The final straw for me came over the Fox TV debacle. I was personally contacted by Michelle with a message to say she had an exciting opportunity for me, I felt she insinuated this was a once in a lifetime opportunity and again I felt she insinuated this was for a small group of hand chosen women who she felt were ready. I felt she suggested that this opportunity had been offered to her exclusively and she said she didn't have to pay for airtime. She asked me not to share that she had approached me with anybody else in the group, I feel in an attempt to block us from realizing how many she had actually invited and she specifically said this opportunity wasn't for the entire group. I felt coerced into signing up for this opportunity because she said spaces were filling up, so I stupidly paid the deposit of £1500. The full amount was to be £3997. The following week she proceeded to actually advertise it as an opportunity to the entire coaching group, telling them to contact her if they were interested. She then created a Facebook group of those going and I was shocked to see a total of 30 women, so much for a select few! I felt completely misled by this opportunity. Less than two weeks later I learned much more about the whole Fox TV issue, I have now seen links of people who book this opportunity regularly for anybody approaching them for a fraction of the price, one of which is Instant Celebrity, who I believe Michelle is aquainted with. I felt very misled by the Fox TV situation, she states she was invited to appear on Fox TV herself and uses this as part of her marketing techniques, I believe this is not truthful and it was an opportunity she paid for. Part of the package we purchased for Fox TV was to include a training day where she would educate us on how to use our own interviews in our marketing strategy, I personally felt to use this kind of media in the same way would be dishonest and misleading to my future clients and I didn't want any part.
Following this I sought legal advice around requesting a refund of the deposit paid of £1,500. I was well aware under the Consumer Rights Act that I was entitled to a refund within 14 days of purchase. It then however came to light that she had worded the contract so it would appear I had purchased as a business, knowing full well i'm not yet registered as a business entity. I believe this was done to get around the cooling-off period and to avoid giving anybody a refund when requested, the same I feel applies to her standard contract. I feel this term is unfair under the Contract Terms Act. She also stated she couldn't refund because she had paid their money for the production slot (I have evidence), I feel misled here because she suggested she had received this airtime free and had been approached personally by Fox TV.
When I requested a refund I received what I perceived to be an intimidating email advising I needed to provide evidence of how I was misled for an "internal investigation" and that it was company policy when a complaint was made to book a call with Michelle Stonhill. I felt this was an intimidation tactic.
I responded to this email requesting what I felt were perfectly legitimate questions which included confirmation of registered company address and company registration number as none were provided anywhere. I also advised I would be passing this issue onto my lawyer to progress further as I feel my money was taken based on incorrect information and would subsequently be reporting Michelle Stonhill to the police. I was very swiftly removed from the main program and received what I personally feel was a very threatening email featuring her solicitors details, demanding payment of the rest of the program fee, advising me I was attempting to defame Michelle Stonhill and enticing other clients to leave, I was purely telling the truth and have evidence to back everything up. I was advised if I continued to speak to anybody I would be pursed legally. I personally felt this was an attempt to keep me quiet. I was also advised that all previous lawsuits against the company had been settled in their favor, again I believe this was an attempt to frighten me into paying the full amount due and not speaking out.
Michelle frequently posts about a "small" group of women with a vendetta against her, what I have discovered since leaving this program and has shocked me is far beyond anything I ever expected. I suspect these "mean girls" are in no way mean and are actually just trying to leave their honest opinions. I believe we are all intelligent women who ask pertinent questions and were quickly shutdown when what I feel we started to discover was the truth. There are numerous negative reviews featured here and in other places, but I notice a theme with the positive reviews and I personally believe these are people who work with Michelle or have a close friendship.
I feel this situation will be portrayed in a way that makes out it's the fault of the people she was coaching, but there comes a time when you have to stop and reflect on why the same issues keep happening to the same person over and over again. If you're taking £8000 from someone to provide a service and those people ask questions you're uncomfortable with, provide criticism of your service or are unhappy with the service provided it's your responsibility as a business owner to deal with that situation and to make people who have asked questions or feel they were misled then feel threatened in any way is disgraceful behavior.
So no in my opinion do not invest in this program, I wouldn't work with this woman if you offered me a million pounds, which incidentally I don't believe she will make you!