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Recent scam?
Took the deposit and ran
Now I have had no progress on the place, I am down $300 and my house is a mess.
Quoted $75/hr for 3 guys and 24ft truck + 1hr travel time. Robbed me $2680
Some guy named RONALDO Quoted me 3 guys & truck $75/hr + 1/hr travel time to job.
Ronaldo Used:
416-671-9987 cell number.
416-566-9814 business number
Email: [email protected]
3 guys show up with a truck. The ring leader is as nice and charming as pie. Comes to check out all the stuff you have to move. Says, this will be no problem!
Started the move, comes in and asks me to sign some contract. I actually READ IT and asked what these extra charges were that are listed? That's not what I was quoted. He said "don't worry about it, you have your $75/hr price plus 1hr travel time as arranged with Ronaldo". So I reluctantly signed it. I should have crossed off all the clauses but trying to be 'nice' I didn't! BIG MISTAKE! They probably would have taken off and I would have been better off. But no...
Then Mr Charming says they need a $450 deposit before starting, so I give it to him. I did take a picture when I gave it to him saying, I just want proof that I gave it to you. He says " Don't worry, I will write it here on the contract. Which he does.
They started loading. After a while I go down to check the progress and I notice that only 2 guys are doing the work. I thought the main guy was staying downstair actually sorting the stuff in the truck. But NO! The 'main' guy is sitting in the truck. He says that he is "only the driver"! I said I asked for 3 movers, not 2 and a driver! Called Ronaldo, he said he would call him and nothing changed. I also ask where the moving blankets are that Ronaldo promised and they said they didn't have any with them?! They did not bring anything as promised! Not even one blanket! grrr!
The 2 movers finally load my stuff up and then Mr. Charming tells me to go get my car and to follow them to my new place which is only 1km away! I say can't I just meet you there in 5? He says no. You have to follow us. Company policy. I get in my new COMPANY car which is a Mercedes (this for sure didn't help me, meanwhile I just sold my 1999 Cougar so that's what I would have been driving a week ago) and we drive off. I then get a call from Mr Charming, the 'driver' that they are hungry and need to stop for McDonald's (meanwhile her could have walked there in 5 minutes to pick them up some up since he wasn't doing a thing all day?!). I say ok, there's one a block North on Yonge/Charles St. They go get food and come back and then I get a call saying that they need $400 deposit to unload. I had calculated my move wouldn't even cost $700, so I didn't even have that much since I already gave him $450. So the guy tells me to go to the bank machine. I kept asking why I can't pay when it's done? He says company policy. So I reluctantly go and pull out the money and give him another $400. He then goes back in the truck for another 10-15 mins. I walk up and say 'we've been here for 25 mins, can we get going since I am getting charged by the hour?' He says 'sure in a bit'. I sit in my car and wait with a friend and my dog. He comes out of the truck and then hands me an invoice for $2680.50! Tells me I still owe him $1850.00! I'm like "what are you talking about? I already paid you". He says he won't unload the truck until I give him the money! I tell him I don't have that kind of money since I just paid first and last month's rent!
I tell him that I am going to call the cops, he says "go right ahead. If you don't pay me I am going to unload all of your stuff on this corner!"
We are talking about a 24ft truck 90% full! I started freaking out and crying. Again I tell him I didn't have it.. He didn't care. Told me to go pull it out on my credit cards! I said they were maxed out (lie). He told me to call the credit card company and ask for an EMERGENCY INCREASE with my limit. I literally started having a nervous breakdown on the street and went back in my car. I was crying and losing my mind. He calls me from the truck and we start arguing on speaker and my dog got so scared she started shaking and freaking out.
My friend then says 'let me take the dog to your new place (5 min walk away)'. I had to agree because she was so stressed too. He leaves and I call the cops. They didn't show for almost an HOUR! The guys didn't care and just sat there in the truck.
When the cops came it was a man and a woman. The female officer was the lead. She asked me what happened, so I told her all of the above. Then she went to talk to him. He's sitting on the fence (seen in the pics below). He then starts getting angry with her and then uses the "race" card saying.. oh.. you're on her side because she's white! She was very alpha and said 'No, I am not'. They argued a bit and then he opened the door to show her my stuff. In the contract it said there was a $45 charge for items over 75lbs! He put that I had 25 ITEMS over 75lbs ($1125)! I didn't even have 1 thing over 75lbs! It was insane! She said she "couldn't tell" because she couldn't see what I had! I was shocked.
So he billed me 5 hrs of moving time, plus an AUTOMATIC more 5 hrs to unload which wasn't in his contract (which we hadn't even done yet), yet the cop said nothing! He was going to charge me travel time $75 but then scratched it out?!?!? He also charged me 15% service charge (he said was for Insurance, meanwhile they told me they were insured and bonded on the phone and it said the same in their AD), plus $302.73 for 'Tax'.
The COP then tells me I HAD TO PAY HIM! She said "I am sorry but I can't help you. You can just take him to court!" I lost my mind. I told her you are helping this guy rob me on the street with a fake bill and moving scam! All she told me was the license plate was registered to a business and to take a picture of it. She wouldn't give me any other information!
I then had to go back to the bank machine and take out another $1850 to pay this crook! When I came back she said "hand it to me and I will hand it to him!" So I literally watched her count it out to him on the street one by one. I literally was shaking! I really didn't have this money so it was on credit.
Then the cop says to me that she will "help me out" by now "following them to my new place 400m down the road to make sure that he "starts unloading" my stuff." That she wasn't even supposed to do that, but she felt 'sorry' for me. I was dead. I might has well have died from a heart attack.
So we get to my new place and he backs in. We are now over 2-3hrs late for my elevator booking, but the building let it slide. The 2 guys start unloading and the cop leaves. My friend comes down, he argues with the main con man, but I tell him to stop or else they will now break my stuff too!
I go upstairs to await the first load. Nothing. I come down and I see they are piling my stuff besides the elevator and down all of the halls from the moving room to the elevator.
I pull up my Mercedes and park it in front of the moving truck away from the front entrance (in a T formation). The main crook says, you can't leave your car there. I said "yes I am until this is all over and my stuff is upstairs". I go upstairs.
Finally one load comes up, then a second load. Things are starting to happen. My friend goes downstairs to get my new LG OLED TV to make sure that they don't drop it, and brings it upstairs. Argues with main guy at the same time, calling him a scammer etc.. An hour goes by.
I tell him I have to take the dog out quickly and to keep an eye on my stuff since I wouldn't put it past them to steal something. I leave for a few mins and am walking back towards the building and then all of a sudden my friend comes running out of the building saying "I think the Movers just TOOK OFF! I saw a white truck leaving from the Balcony"
I look over and I no longer see the 26ft truck in the moving dock! I run over and am shocked! THEY ARE GONE! Somehow they managed to get out of the garage even though my car was parked in front of them to block that from happening. Then some woman rushes over and says "I saw them leave (more like helped them)! She said that the 'driver' drove over the 16" high curb and jumped the mini wall with the truck to get out! That she heard them ruin their truck a bit on the bottom but he got out! It turned out the white pole that was there on the meridian wasn't a fixed metal pole like I thought.., but rather a white plastic one that moves if you hit it (like a boxing bag)! So he just drove right over it when he jumped the wall!
I look over and they had left a trail of 90% my stuff all over the main floor of the condo building leading up to the elevator! I mean it was everywhere! I had kept asking them to keep bringing up my stuff and not stockpiling it. He said sure and started bringing it up! They had only brought up about 3 loads when they took off! I was devastated. I couldn't believe what had just happened! I had soooo much stuff and it was all still downstairs including my couch, bed, boxes...everything! I honestly started shaking. It was just me and my friend and he has a bad back and arm!
It ended up taking us until Midnight to move everything upstairs with the help of my sister who showed up at 9pm to help!
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****However… GREAT NEWS!******
The guy who drove the truck for Ronaldo got arrested JULY.1.2022! It's the same guy who robbed me on April 14.2021!
They are looking for more VICTIMS! Call 416-808-5500
The Detective on the case is Manny Gialousis badge 9177. Call him to file your report! Or email him at [email protected]
Here’s the News Article from yesterday!
https://www.cp24.com/news/toronto-police-charge-42-year-old-man-in-moving-compan...⇄ />
Here is the contract and invoice from these crooks!
Look at the news Mugshot pic vs. my pics below
1)
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-police-charge-42-year-old-man-in-moving-compa...⇄ />
2)
https://globalnews.ca/news/8962766/arrest-moving-scam-toronto-police-cosburn-pap...⇄ />
Video News Link:
https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/f6f913a6-f666-11ec-8f8d-0242ac110003/?jwsource=cl...⇄ />
3)
https://canada.finax.in/man-arrested-in-toronto-moving-company-scam-police-offic...⇄ />
Mr Charming's name is: Dashen Smith, 42 years old
Police Press Release: https://www.tps.ca/media-centre/news-releases/53341/
#movingfraudintoronto
#TorontoMovingScam
#MovingSCAM
#dashensmith (Mr Charming. Leader of the Scams. Also the Driver!
#AmethystJones (police are still looking for her)
#DoganCelik (also arrested)
#CemalOzturk (also arrested)
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-police-charge-42-year-old-man-in-moving-compa...⇄
Scammer's website www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1615074237
Scammer's address Montreal,QC
Scammer's email [email protected]
Country Canada
Type of a scam Moving
Initial means of contact Online classifieds (e.g., Craigslist)
SCAM - ALL AROUND MOVERS
Scammed deposit
These guys are professional con artists.
I'd like to join any efforts to report them / see justice. Maybe we can arrange a party where we invite the guy back and scam him back.
I recently fell victim to Quebec Inc from a Kijiji ad posing as ''All Around Movers'' out of $1200 - and they threw all my belongings on the street. I want to see justice from this as well feel free to email me at [email protected] so we can discuss more.
Best
Scammed hard by these guys
Same people - same story
Because we paid the guy in front of the Cops, while taking video, we got everything moved into the destination and second floor. Even the black guy in the photo ended up working ! Anyways
Contact me at (581) 922-6188
Scammers
avoid at all cost they will rip you off
581-922-6188
[email protected]
PENDING LAWSUIT!!! SCAMMER BUSTED
Scammed me out of $4000 - 5min away destination with a small loaded truck
Sat on the job + smoke break (at my cost) + much more
LAWSUIT FILING ANY VICTIMS & WITNESSES CAN JOIN. PLEASE CONTACT ME BY REPLYING TO THIS.
I recently fell victim to this scam as well and had all my belongings thrown on the street, as well as been out of $1200. If we can all start discussing this or take some sort of action I would like to bring justice to this. Feel free to email me back at [email protected].
Best
Thank you
Please contact me by
[email protected]
581-922-6188
BEWARE **SCAMMERS**
I'm sorry to hear what you've been through, and have fallen victim to this company as well. I want to bring this to justice, feel free to reach me at [email protected] if you are interested.
Got Scammed
I fell victim to the same company, but this time they posed as ''All Around Movers'' in my city. I have the same situation found them on Kijiji, they used a Uhaul, scammed me of $1200 etc. Feel free to email me at [email protected] if you want to join in on any efforts of bringing this company down.
Got scammed on March 12 - STAY AWAY FROM 416-371-7948, RAY, RONALDO, MOVING LIMITED INC - RUN!
I contacted this company, and Ray spoke to me for a few days. I decided to give them a moving business for a charity organization office move. 2 guys at $45/hr, or because I asked for 3 guys for $70/hr, we agreed on the time. I was told I could pay by check or e-transfer. I got a text they would only take cash; email is not working (tip #1). The driver started calling me a private number in the morning (tip #2). When the mover and the guys came, they gave me paperwork to sign only after you gave a deposit (tip #3). I read it and saw $45, 3 men, stair fee, heavy item fee (tip #4). I asked questions; the driver said it's whatever Ray had agreed with; I am just paying a deposit (tip #5). They asked for $350. Then once they finished loading, they asked for another $250, cash only, I obliged (tip#6). We are going and where we are is a 5 mins drive away. When the guy got to the light, he turned right rather than left (tip #7). I followed him and asked if everything was OK, then he said they wanted to get food, fair enough.
5 mins later, he came with a bill of $1700, saying the boss asked me to pay; otherwise, they would not move (tip #8); I called and asked for Ray, they said they could not find him; he was on the plane etc. I begged; they wanted $1000 extra cash. I said I don't have much; they asked me to collect on my credit card, bank card, ask a friend. My friend said he could send them a $400 e transfer; they refused; the driver said he was not moving but could drive to Mississauga to pick up the cash.
After 2 hours, I gave up and left!, they called me to come with an additional $400, so they could move my stuff back to the original location, I refused!. I told them I would pay $400 if they dropped my things at the destination.
Next thing, they offloaded some of our stuff into the parking lot and ran away!. I am still waiting to get items back; they are no longer picking up their calls or responding to texts!
RUN!
That's horrible! I recently had a very similar situation happen to me with this same company and have been scammed out of $1200, with all my belongings scattered on the street. If you would like to help me bring justice to bring this company down feel free to email me at [email protected].
Just got scammed - BEWARE - 416.602.1467/647.493.6408 - Ryan/Kevin -
Luckily the goods were to be moved from a storage unit into the pod.
NORDIQUE MOVER'S INC - 514.463.9846. SUPERVISOR: 437.329.4739
At that stage I was not going to let them get into my house anymore. We had to call the police. They waited a while and left with the goods from the storage as I refused to pay them anymore money.
Scammers scammers.
The driver was throwing my stuff around like it was nothing. They asked for 2 deposits and when I was given final bill of $1600 I refused to pay, they wouldn’t give me my stuff and I couldn’t let that happen so I had to pay. They refused to carry anything up the stairs as they wanted more money and at that point I refused so they left everything in the garage.
Clearly they haven’t gotten caught yet cause this just happened to me. I feel so bad for everyone and I should have read the reviews before hiring these mother [censored]ers.
The phone numbers they used
+16473752459
+1 (438) 226-9802
I recently fell victim to the same scam ran by the same company. If you'd like to contribute any efforts to bring this company down and seek justice email me at [email protected]
Got scammed $2000 - same 2 black guys in the picture
I have recorded phone calls and pictures, I am surprised they are committing crime and harrasing people in their most vulnerable state and getting away with it.
But u called other number Andrew who said it will not cost more than $450 for 2 bedroom .
3 guys came, 2 of them were already high.
Loaded 1 hour. Unloaded even faster. They stopped somewhere to get more high. Came all woth res eyes like bulls. I had to pay $1200 for 3 hours in total.
I didn't let them to bring some furniture upstairs because they charge extra for stairs.
I am a single mother woth 2 kids and the small one is with disability
This person is advertising on kijiji and scamming people
The truck didn't have nothing like blankets or straps.
I had to pay as I just wanted this nightmare to finish. They throw boxes , loading like it's some garbage
There are few people involved in this and they are hiring random guys to do the job and paying them $20/h
I have both numbers of contacts and pic of license plates.
14166719987 Ronaldo
4168483039 Andrew