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Dragon Hall Gaming Reports & Reviews (13)

• Apr 22, 2024

If you've stumbled on this page, you're already on the right track.

Ask yourself why any reputable business would operate like this:

- Using pseudonyms and avoiding to mention the name "Dragonhall Gaming" in any posts they make to advertise their server

- Advertising themselves as a single DM running multiple games, when this is not the reality

- Constantly making new accounts on website like Roll20 and DnDBeyond because they keep getting banned. Avoiding websites like StartPlaying that have public reviews of DMs.

- Doxing, bullying, and slandering former employees who share negative experiences online. There are multiple examples of this in the replies here by "Oath_of_the_Watchers" who happily doxed a former employee's discord name, but hasn't provided any proof themselves that they aren't just Netherdeep doing damage control (please reply to this post with a screenshot of yourself logged into the DH discord to prove otherwise). I've attached the screenshot of the reply in case they delete it.

- Locking all public chat channels on the DH discord to prevent people from speaking to each other

There are hundreds of other options for new players that don't have any red flags, let alone this many. Move on and save yourself the headaches.

Let this finally be the end of DH.
Stay Away

+28
• Apr 17, 2024

Dms don t get payed and from what i ve heard neither do his taxes. Avoid at all cost

+5
• Apr 18, 2024

I think if you had actual proof that the business owner is indeed a tax evader, you would have posted links to news articles or the legal case on Findlaw or PACER showing that they were prosecuted for tax evasion. Since you didn't do that, I have to conclude that you are just on here making things up about people to slander them.

I'm a former DM under Dragon Hall. I quit the server due to "Netherdeep" being a horrible and abusive employer. He pays you very little for your hard work. Doesn't communicate with you in an adequate or professional manner. When I quit due to the stress he was putting me through he blasted my private information to the players. I asked for tax information in order to report my earnings and he gave me nothing. He lures in players via multiples accounts. Promises training to help you grow as a DM but it's little more than just berating you for not doing things his way. Please if your looking to be a pro DM either do it yourself or go to a site like startplaying.games. You'll find a much better experience there. As someone who had a lot to deal with, I ask you to not go near Dragon Hall as a player or DM

+4
• Apr 18, 2024

Hello again Lunar Phoenix! I was in one of your groups about a year ago. Briefly, I might add. You let an unruly player dominate a session, and you were very short with the two newcomers in the group. I remember one of the newbies was nervous and had a lot of questions. You said you'd work with him between sessions, but never did. He messaged me for help, saying you weren't responding, then he told me you unfriended and blocked him. When I messaged you, you did the same to me. I'm aware that you did this to many players in many groups. You didn't even pass along the session notes so another DM could pick up the games. You just disappeared and ghosted everyone.

You claim that Netherdeep is "horrible and abusive," but I have never experienced that. I've had a great experience at Dragon Hall, both as a player and as a DM. I've gotten all the help and training I could ask for. He's always there for me, whenever I have a question or need to talk about something that happened during a game. And he always backs me up if a player is misbehaving, disrupting a game, or acting inappropriately towards someone else in the group. I want to provide a safe and fun environment for people to play in, and I'm grateful that Dragon Hall doesn't force me to put up with bad behavior just to keep the head count up.

Having dealt with both you and Netherdeep, I can state without reservation that you are the one who lacks professsionalism, Lunar Phoenix. Even if everything you said about Dragon Hall was true, it still wouldn't excuse you treating other people badly. No one deserves to be treated in the poor way you treat them.

While dropped into a campaign with what they call a pro DM who didn't really seem to have a handle on the mechanics of the foundry program and had poor control of the actual game itself, I was allowed very little interaction in the game with the other players and i got booted because i wouldnt let them kill a dog npc which they wanted to sacrifice. Instead of finding another way they said i hindered the game by not letting them do so. This of course i found out later... having been new to the game of course and I was trying to find my footing. The DM was NOT! a PRO as advertised. This is BS and False Advertising. He continues to Advertise his games on ROLL20

+2
• Apr 18, 2024

"I was just playing in character" is what people always seem to say when they disrupt games and ruin everyone's else's good time with selfish play. You made the character exactly the way you wanted to play the character. Every gaming table in organized play must have a code of conduct that applies equally to everyone. It's how a safe and fun time can be provided to everyone who participates. If you violate that covenant, you lose the privilege of playing in that group.

I was not scammed out of money. But my brand and format are getting a bad reputation due to the actions of the individual known as Netherdeep. He poached my format from Roll20 from various game ads that I have/had running on Roll20. In his ads, he speaks about the very same things that I legitimately provide as an independent paid DM. He speaks about customizing campaign story to include character backgrounds. He speaks about his efforts as a DM to ensure the playspace is safe and inclusive. He speaks about himself and his experience as a Dungeon Master. None of it is true or accurate. From multiple sources, I have heard nothing good about this Netherdeep. All the words in his ads are MY WORDS. He changed some of the verbatim for sure, but almost word for word in many cases, my original content.

I had no idea for almost 2 years! Then I started getting people asking me if I was Dragonhall. If I was Netherdeep. The work I have put in building a Brand and community as Sei_Time on Twitch, Discord, Roll20, dndbeyond, Twitter, ect, all look like Netherdeep. Because he has scammed so many people. He has touched the lives of so many more people than I have, and in a negative way. It wasn't until I started getting asked if I was him that I started investigating what DragonHallGaming and the mind behind it "Netherdeep" were.

When I messaged Netherdeep initially on Roll20, in a friendly manner, because I thought it was a fellow struggling DM, just getting by. I made mention that I was flattered they were using my ad format and that I wasn't upset about it.

When I dug further though, the things this Netherdeep has done to scam people out of money makes me extremely annoyed. And more so because I did all the ad work for him, without my consent!

My reason for being here right now is to call attention to the lack of credibility that DragonHallGaming has, and to urge anyone that encounters Netherdeep and DragonHallGaming to run before giving them any money.

In the included picture, I have included a side by side of my original Bio Page, then their proxy account Bio Page.

I have also included a copy of an ad of theirs from dndbeyond, largely using my format from an ad, which I also posted for comparison.
Plagiarizing my ad format...
Plagiarizing my ad format...
Plagiarizing my ad format...

+4

These guys charged me for 3 games and wouldn’t let me play in a single one. When I asked for help, they sent me links to YouTube videos with no context. I currently have COVID and am in the hospital. I was just contacted by my “recruiter” to tell me that even though I paid for tonight’s game, my seat is being given away because I’m not able to join. When I told him that was bull[censored], he banned me from the group. The entire organization has been reported via business bureaus and through their main advertising chain.
S[censored] People Making Money on Gamers

+3
• Apr 18, 2024

You posted a screenshot of the organizer clearly trying to communicate with you to determine whether you would be participating in the session or not. Completely understandable, since seating is limited. The screenshot shows that you didn't respond at first, and that when you finally did, you were hostile and abusive. Yet, here you are complaining that the host didn't let you join the table after you acted like that. Don't you realize that you are not entitled to treat people like that? People sign up to play a fun game, not deal with that kind of behavior.

If you can imagine a sweat shop of online paid-DMing, this is it. The owners of the business are poor DM's - they regularly go off-line and loose track of what is going on, and pay little attention to the players (although they do know the rules, so the endless combat kind of works),

However, besides the poor quality play, the real kicker is that they employ other DMs in what is nothing short of a pyramid scheme. Better DMs working under them are being paid slave-labour rates while Dragon Hall/Netherdeep/whatever name they're running their scam under skim off the top.

There are other paid DM services out there. Don't use this one.

+4
- Albuquerque, NM, USA

The man who runs "Dragon Hall Gaming" is using a Discord server to run gaming events. He is falsely advertising his services on the website roll20.net collecting money for these events. He collects his money using PayPal using an email address that is not his own, and then distributes it to his "employees" via PayPal using the same false identity. He is using multiple profiles under handles DM Rogue One, DM Rogueone, and other variations. He lures players and employees alike with empty promises, and to say nothing of his mistreatment of people in general, he then fraudulently avoids paying his employees. Please find the attached document for examples of false advertising.

One of his profiles can be found here: https://app.roll20.net/users/5302055/dm-rogue-one

One of his ads can be found here: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/288092/star-new-star-mythic-odysseys-of-thero... />
The scammer illegally withheld my final paycheck, and to my knowledge has done so for several others. I have kept a record of all correspondence between him and myself on Discord. He is hiding his identity on PayPal and Discord, so I have never met him. He requested a W9 from me in exchange for my paycheck, which I supplied him, and he then denied my payment. He has my SSN and my physical address as a result. I'm sure that I'm not the only one he's done this to.

+15
• Apr 18, 2024

I've been running games at Dragon Hall for almost a year now, and I have always gotten paid on time, every single week without fail. I have friends who DM on the server as well, and they have never had an issue getting paid either. I even got a nice Chistmas bonus last December, which I wasn't expecting at all because I hadn't even been working there a year yet.

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